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Wednesday, November 28, 2007

A New Optimism

Hope from Bush for Middle East Peace Spiegel Online International

White House Inaurgurates Mideast Peace Talks NPR

Urgent Diplomacy: Glasses Half Full in 11th Minute? RawStory
"We have a common duty to spread genuine hope" President Abbas Boston Globe

We express our determination to bring an end to bloodshed, suffering, and decades of conflict between our peoples; to usher in a new era of peace, based on freedom, security, justice, dignity, respect and mutual recognition; to propagate a culture of peace and nonviolence; to confront terrorism and incitement, whether committed by Palestinians or Israelis. (joint statement)

Maybe we should hope for this over here,
before we can hope for it, over there.
Now that would be the real "hard work".*

A timeline for Peace? "Much Ado About Annapolis" Common Dreams

[Finally: The Rice Legacy "the one calling the shots." NPR

*[search blog] "optimism" and "hard work"

Thursday, September 19, 2002

FAST REVERSE or BACKTRACK BEFORE FAST TRACK

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Important Question for experts: (A Catch-22?)

Do you know if the following section from the Persian Gulf Resolution has been followed? If not, it would appear to void the administrations authority. If it was followed, it would appear that they have validated and must continue to follow both congressional and UN rules and restrictions.

"Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution" January 12, 1991

Section 3. REPORTS TO CONGRESS.

At least once every 60 days, the President shall submit to the Congress a summary on the status of efforts to obtain compliance by Iraq with the resolutions adopted by the United Nations Security Council in response to Iraq's aggression.

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For links, sorry you need to cut and paste the addresses.
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This (below) is my first substantial edit that has been done purely for visual sake, or not much more than minor house keeping or progress on my part. 11-17-04

Subject: CONNECTING DOTS AND LIVING BY PRINCIPLES- Re: Move-On meeting with
Senators.


[Note: This contains many important points where the linkage may be subtle, but I tried to avoid being too condescending and its original format lends to brevity as well as the above title.]

[Subject: Peace, Foreign Policy, Justice, War and Terrorism.] 8-19-02

To the Seattle Post Intelligencer: April 25th, 2002 [Not printed, but submitted intact with post-script]

With the passage of time and the contributions that I have seen published since September 11th, I feel compelled to resubmit the following, with some additional comments. The April 23rd 2002, Op Ed pages contained two distinct
views of our situation. In one rests the solution, that of former President Jimmy Carter, "We can persuade Israel to make peace", and in the other the problem, that of Attorney Steven T. O'Ban, "Israel's war is America's war". How can we fight a war on terrorism with terrorism?

War On(or) Terrorism [November 27, 2001 ]

While already proud to be an American, I was glad to see the fire in William Safire's, "With Bush's tribunals, we cede moral and legal high ground." The trashing of human rights in the name of safety will provide neither. (Apologies to Ben Franklin)

I chose the following words to express my thoughts sometime before noon PST September 11, 2001:

The tragedy that has come to this nation today is unspeakable. It is an attack on our country but not on our democracy. It would seem to be a form of attack on our democracy to feel the hesitancy to criticize our
government. To find and prosecute the people who are responsible would be justice. But if retaliation is justified in the name of a war on terrorism then we must wake up. War is already ongoing (freedom and lives are lost
daily around the world) and we must be wary of visiting the same atrocities on others. Since collateral damage has been justified in war (wrongly or not), retaliation that includes hasty justice may be guilty of, if not also
justifying the same terrible deeds.

Two days later I had read and re-read my words and had read or heard those of others and had come to find the importance in having a perspective on the choice of words. A response to this horrific act was of course needed, but
encouragement came from the first steps taken to get the support of others in the world. To act alone would cause consequences that would prolong this process. There is hope for us if this unity that results truly allows good
to prevail. But voices must not hesitate to point out where goodness is needed in the world and it must begin at home. Expressing our feeling of sadness and fear at these outrageous acts must be encouraged and not
translated into anger toward any groups in this or other countries that are not the perpetrators or actual supporters of terrorism or we will feed the spiral of hate.

While these words may seem prophetic if not somewhat heeded in the last two and a half months, we must still try to understand this "War on Terrorism". It must begin with the words used. The word WAR ranges from 1. armed
fighting between groups, through 5. a serious effort to end something, from the Brittanica Concise Dictionary. The same source has a longer definition of TERRORISM, but begins with one sentence. TERRORISM as a systematic threat or use of unpredicted violence by organized groups to achieve a political objective. If the President wants to feel "absolutely" right about his actions, we have to be absolutely certain of his definitions and if he knows them and their consequences. We can as Americans and with a very great part of the world, be engaged in this war as a serious effort to end terrorism. But, a systematic threat or use of unpredicted violence by organized groups to achieve a political objective is not only Terrorism, it makes our foreign policy and war synonymous with it.

Aside from tossing human rights and the constitution aside, the current policy is not even consistent with past Republican insistence upon clear goals and exit strategies being required before troop engagement. Do not get
me wrong. War as violence, does have a place in self-defense. However, by not using the term for war as a serious effort to end something, we have not only lost our moral and legal high ground, but have also raised terrorism to
the level of war where there are no rules except to the victor.

On patriotism, we must have follow through. Do not ban flag burning or require the pledge of allegiance, but expect respect for and stand up for the principles "for which it stands". Without "liberty and justice for all" we can hardly be "indivisible". As Bush so eloquently said in his September 20th address to congress: "We are in a fight for our principles, and our first responsibility is to live by them." Is it any indication to the contrary that on the very day Bush declared this a "war" the Secretary of Defense confessed that he had yet to consult a dictionary to define war?

Sincerely, Roger Larson

Post script. (4-25-02)

If the above is not explanatory enough, maybe additional considerations are important. If terrorism is more narrowly defined to be attacks on civilians, we obviously still have room to argue with the recent Israelis attack on
Palestinian camps and our use of the term "collateral damage".

However, looking at the administration's approach in linking financial and humanitarian aid to countries that make progress toward democracy, why start with that approach? This would by itself be an attack on civilians, when at
the same time, we are not talking about removing the military or defense support and/or cooperation we give to totalitarian and repressive regimes. In particular the comparison O'Ban made between Israel now and England
during WWII is erroneous in this manner. While England and the rest of Europe were under attack by a totalitarian regime, most of the attackers of Israel either have no nation/state or must live "under" repressive regimes
that we at best are simply using, but more seriously contributing to heavily.

I hope that strong support for the peace plans of Jimmy Carter and/or in some combination with the Saudi proposals will be forthcoming, or we should not be surprised to be met with our own tactics: violence as a means to achieve a political purpose. Recently I believe President Bush said, "the end does not justify the means". When is he going to start understanding and standing up for that principle?

Roger Larson
* End of edit 11-17-04 but a good proof read may still be needed.

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On Democracy and media coverage:

THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS LIKE?

It may look like making sausage, but we don’t want America ground meat.

What’s the story on the press releases for the Rolling Thunder (rollingthundertour.org) event on August 24th, as well as the Moveon.org event on August 28th? When did they go out and where were they sent?

Moveon.org members delivered letters of support and courage to our senators to ask the questions of the administration that would put the brakes on its rush to war. While nearly 150 concerned citizens circled the Federal Building in Seattle while 40 representatives took the message and questions inside to both of our Senators’ policy advisors and staff members. A larger group later filled the Plymouth Congregational Church in Seattle with further discourse with them.

Correct me if I am wrong, but like Rolling Thunder on August 24th, billed as "This is what Democracy looks like!" which was a related but different issue, there was close to no major news coverage. There, over 7000 people gathered in the name of Democracy. The major reason for lack of coverage may be their successes. They were peaceful, non-violent and in fact caused little disturbance other than the parking violators for the latter.

UW researchers provide reason for a more skeptical or sinister view of this lack of coverage, "Newsmagazines downplayed opposition voices after Sept. 11, researchers find." http://www.washington.edu/newsroom/news/2002archive/08-02archive/k081902a.html

This is an important finding but three points were not raised. First, how difficult the message of peace is compared to the simplistic answer of war. Simple but wrong reasons for war are hard to fight with the myriad of reasons and needs for peace. Second, the methods of peace and progress do not provide the money generating headlines or focus on crisis and tragedy. Lastly, if the voices of democracy are not carried by the mainstream media, it would appear to reward those more disturbing and disruptive.

Contrary to the goal of journalism promoting the free exchange of ideas and thereby a free people, they would, in attempting to unite, instead polarize the country. The media is more, as H.L. Mencken said of the newspaper…"a device for making the ignorant more ignorant and the crazy crazier." It should not be hard to see that a likely result would be greater support for the extremes of totalitarianism and anarchy. I’m sure the conflict would then get great revenue generating coverage, but moderate reasoned voices would be the losers.

Roger Larson Bellevue, WA

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Open letter to President previously posted and removed as Duplicated.
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Unprinted letter to the Seattle Times.
"If we must fight Iraq, let’s get it right" by Zbigniew Brzezinski was a wonderful piece in its simple telling of the cautions on waging war. Those who would remind us he was Carter’s national security advisor, probably forget their warning that we should not become the "policeman" to the world.

Yes, war may be justified at times, but non-violence and politics work too, if we have the patience to stand by your principles. If we don’t, we will violate our principles. If we violate our principles, we will have nothing to stand for. In the case of violating our principles and having nothing to stand for, non-violence and politics would be wasteful pursuits, but waging war would just be wrong (though some would argue profitable.)

While non-violence and politics have been low in the polls of public esteem lately, history seems to take even more harassment. Brzezinski’s needs to shine more light on why Iraq is singled out not only from "the axis of evil", but from other nations that we call allies, and in the case of Saudi Arabia possibly being considered the next confrontation. The reason history gets such short shrift is that it will show our contributions to Iraq’s power and access to weapons of mass destruction. Another problem is the administrations optional use of "international law". It would be difficult to have justified reasons in this light, without manipulating or ignoring history.

When candidate Bush said he trusts the people, not government, and polls were something he ridiculed, it was probably because he felt he could trust being able to manipulate them. I failed to find a quote on those who don’t learn from history, but found more on the subject of manipulating it. Given this dilemma, are some resolved to repeat it?

Roger Larson
========================================================================================= Unprinted letter to the Seattle PI.
The George F. Will piece, "What we’ve learned from 9/11 and from 12/7" [*] is a waste of words and a waste of lives, if that is all we’ve learned. I make light of neither, but what I have learned from both is to speak up in the face of these wastes. This will honor the lives both military and civilian that were lost on these tragic historical occasions.

If his point is that we have a destiny and that we are in an ever-present danger for it, then we have not learned enough. He surmises that "For all Americans, being a focus of furies - which a muscular nation, extending almost 5,000 miles from the cavity in Southern Manhattan to the Arizona’s hull, will be - is a dangerous destiny." He concludes simply: "A powerful nation embodying a powerful idea spanning six time zones is permanently exposed to dangers from all the other 18." Aside from being obvious, he fails to clarify that powerful idea, unless it is his immediate reference to the USS Baltimore as "the course of empire takes its way".

It is not the 5,000 miles or the six time zones that presumes this destiny, if that is the "idea". It is the, "how we got there" and "where are we going" that pose the risk to our history. It is the how and why of that idea that needs clarity if we want to distinguish ourselves with a destiny different from others. If we fail to learn much more from these events, we will fail to even clarify our destiny let alone honor our dead. If we investigate further we may not only change our history but the world’s future.

Roger Larson




ABOUT ME:
I have been asking the hard questions or rather, I have been connecting the dots since about 2 weeks before the election. I have sent letters to local papers, elected officials and discussed issues on local radio and in MSN's The Fray. Some of which are compiled at http://www.geocities.com/roger_2l/Politics_is_OK.html but have not updated there since September 11th when I really got going as you can see above. [Slowly transfering material to this site]

To newspapers:
PRESIDENTIAL POLITICS
Bush the 'uniter' would separate us from government. October 31st, 2000

COMPLICATIONS Process may be slow but must be allowed to play itself out. November 20th, 2000

RED & BLUE AMERICA Horsey's cartoon goes overboard on voters.

This last one, was poorly edited:
Here is the original letter to the Seattle PI


At the risk of being obvious, I would like to comment on "David Horsey's
guide to Red & Blue America". For the sake of humor it went overboard in
it's characterizations of those who voted for Bush or Gore. Hopefully that
is a good thing, if people realize like I did, how we can see one side a
little funnier or less overboard than the other. Hopefully the humor can be
less dividing than the colors pinned on these candidates. It also made me
realize that there may be value in using more colors, but somehow without
Green or any other color, being a factor in making us see Red.


[8-20-07: Headline and links above edited only.
===

TERRORISM Cheney Comments Ironic
http://www.eastsidejournal.com/sited/story/html/93786
[This paper did not survive my departure or my writing, but here is my piece as it appeared.

TERRORISM
Cheney comments ironic
It is the height of hypocrisy and irony that vice President Cheney should warn the Democrats about taking partisan advantage of the attack on the World Trade Center or using incendiary language, after their use of the Sept. 11 photo-op and the words they have so often chosen.
Given that the administration turns its back on world justice and the International Criminal Court and has justified any means to fight terrorism, or defend our sovereignty, it is no wonder that violence has been established as a solution. If civilian collateral damage is accepted routinely, and lack of a declaration of war and consulting with Congress are accepted without passionate argument, then it is no wonder that someone could attack us.
The language the president often used was tantamount to declaring war all the while acknowledging that we would not telegraph our blows. Again, is it any surprise that an enemy would use the same tactics? Apparently surprise is the most the administration will admit. Instead of investing more power in our intelligence operations, we should more intelligently use the powers we have. Oh, and it would help if we use the laws we have too.]

Also a version here.

[*] Update link 1-18-10

Wednesday, November 27, 2002

THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS LIKE?

[open letter to the Seattle area media: Aug. 29th 2002]
[LINKS UPDATED 9-28-11 Original only had UW link.]
It may look like making sausage, but we don’t want America ground meat.

What’s the story on the press releases for the Rolling Thunder event on August 24th, as well as the Moveon.org event on August 28th? When did they go out and where were they sent?

Moveon.org members delivered letters of support and courage to our senators to ask the questions of the administration that would put the brakes on its rush to war. While nearly 150 concerned citizens circled the Federal Building in Seattle while 40 representatives took the message and questions inside to both of our Senators’ policy advisors and staff members. A larger group later filled the Plymouth Congregational Church in Seattle with further discourse with them.

Correct me if I am wrong, but like Rolling Thunder on August 24th, billed as "This is what Democracy looks like" which was a related but different issue, there was close to no major news coverage. There, over 7000 people gathered in the name of Democracy. The major reason for lack of coverage may be their successes. They were peaceful, non-violent and in fact caused little disturbance other than the parking violators for the latter.

UW researchers provide reason for a more skeptical or sinister view of this lack of coverage, "Newsmagazines downplayed opposition voices after Sept. 11, researchers find."

This is an important finding but three points were not raised. First, how difficult the message of peace is compared to the simplistic answer of war. Simple but wrong reasons for war are hard to fight with the myriad of reasons and needs for peace. Second, the methods of peace and progress do not provide the money generating headlines or focus on crisis and tragedy. If the voices of democracy are not carried by the mainstream media it, appears they reward those that would be more disturbing and disruptive.

Contrary to the goal of journalism promoting the free exchange of ideas and thereby a free people, they would, in attempting to unite, instead polarize the country. The media is more, as H.L. Mencken said of the newspaper…"a device for making the ignorant more ignorant and the crazy crazier." It should not be hard to see that a likely result would be greater support for the extremes of totalitarianism and anarchy. I’m sure the conflict would then get great revenue generating coverage, but moderate reasoned voices would be the losers.

[9-28-11: More updates and links needed.]

Tuesday, September 11, 2007

War On/Or Terrorism ?

[Anachronic Memorial to the victims of September 11th, 2001]


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CONNECTING DOTS AND LIVING BY PRINCIPLES-
Re: Move-On meeting with Senators.

[Petitions were presented to each U.S. Senator on August 28th, 2002 against the Iraq War Resolution.]
* * * * * *

[Note: This contains many important points where the linkage may be subtle, but I tried to avoid being too condescending and its original format lends to brevity as well as the above title.]

[Subject: Peace, Foreign Policy, Justice, War and Terrorism.] 8-19-02
To the Seattle Post Intelligencer: April 25th, 2002

With the passage of time and the contributions that I have seen published since September 11th, I feel compelled to resubmit the following, with some additional comments. The April 23rd 2002, Op Ed pages contained two distinct
views of our situation. In one rests the solution, that of former President Jimmy Carter, "We can persuade Israel to make peace", and in the other the problem, that of Attorney Steven T. O'Ban, "Israel's war is America's war". How can we fight a war on terrorism with terrorism?

War On(or) Terrorism [November 27, 2001 ]
While already proud to be an American, I was glad to see the fire in William Safire's, "With Bush's tribunals, we cede moral and legal high ground." The trashing of human rights in the name of safety will provide neither. (Apologies to Ben Franklin)

I chose the following words to express my thoughts sometime before noon PST September 11, 2001:
The tragedy that has come to this nation today is unspeakable. It is an attack on our country but not on our democracy. It would seem to be a form of attack on our democracy to feel the hesitancy to criticize our
government. To find and prosecute the people who are responsible would be justice. But if retaliation is justified in the name of a war on terrorism then we must wake up. War is already ongoing (freedom and lives are lost
daily around the world) and we must be wary of visiting the same atrocities on others. Since collateral damage has been justified in war (wrongly or not), retaliation that includes hasty justice may be guilty of, if not also
justifying the same terrible deeds.
Two days later I had read and re-read my words and had read or heard those of others and had come to find the importance in having a perspective on the choice of words. A response to this horrific act was of course needed, but
encouragement came from the first steps taken to get the support of others in the world. To act alone would cause consequences that would prolong this process. There is hope for us if this unity that results truly allows good
to prevail. But voices must not hesitate to point out where goodness is needed in the world and it must begin at home. Expressing our feeling of sadness and fear at these outrageous acts must be encouraged and not
translated into anger toward any groups in this or other countries that are not the perpetrators or actual supporters of terrorism or we will feed the spiral of hate.

While these words may seem prophetic if not somewhat heeded in the last two and a half months, we must still try to understand this "War on Terrorism". It must begin with the words used. The word WAR ranges from 1. armed fighting between groups, through 5. a serious effort to end something, from the Brittanica Concise Dictionary. The same source has a longer definition of TERRORISM, but begins with one sentence. TERRORISM as a systematic threat or use of unpredicted violence by organized groups to achieve a political objective. If the President wants to feel "absolutely" right about his actions, we have to be absolutely certain of his definitions and if he knows them and their consequences. We can as Americans and with a very great part of the world, be engaged in this war as a serious effort to end terrorism. But, a systematic threat or use of unpredicted violence by organized groups to achieve a political objective is not only Terrorism, it makes our foreign policy and war synonymous with it.

Aside from tossing human rights and the constitution aside, the current policy is not even consistent with past Republican insistence upon clear goals and exit strategies being required before troop engagement. Do not get
me wrong. War as violence, does have a place in self-defense. However, by not using the term for war as a serious effort to end something, we have not only lost our moral and legal high ground, but have also raised terrorism to
the level of war where there are no rules except to the victor.

On patriotism, we must have follow through. Do not ban flag burning or require the pledge of allegiance, but expect respect for and stand up for the principles "for which it stands". Without "liberty and justice for all" we can hardly be "indivisible". As Bush so eloquently said in his September 20th address to congress: "We are in a fight for our principles, and our first responsibility is to live by them." Is it any indication to the contrary that on the very day Bush declared this a "war" the Secretary of Defense confessed that he had yet to consult a dictionary to define war?

Post script. (4-25-02)

If the above is not explanatory enough, maybe additional considerations are important. If terrorism is more narrowly defined to be attacks on civilians, we obviously still have room to argue with the recent Israelis attack on
Palestinian camps and our use of the term "collateral damage".

However, looking at the administration's approach in linking financial and humanitarian aid to countries that make progress toward democracy, why start with that approach? This would by itself be an attack on civilians, when at
the same time, we are not talking about removing the military or defense support and/or cooperation we give to totalitarian and repressive regimes. In particular the comparison O'Ban made between Israel now and England
during WWII is erroneous in this manner. While England and the rest of Europe were under attack by a totalitarian regime, most of the attackers of Israel either have no nation/state or must live "under" repressive regimes
that we at best are simply using, but more seriously contributing to heavily.

I hope that strong support for the peace plans of Jimmy Carter and/or in some combination with the Saudi proposals will be forthcoming, or we should not be surprised to be met with our own tactics: violence as a means to achieve a political purpose. Recently I believe President Bush said, "the end does not justify the means". When is he going to start understanding and standing up for that principle?

Saturday, April 03, 2004


* RERUN *
[Compiled and distributed 8-19-02 ]<

Subject: CONNECTING DOTS AND LIVING BY PRINCIPLES-
Re: Move-On meeting with Senators.

[Note: This contains many important points where the linkage may be subtle, but I tried to avoid being too condescending and its original format lends to brevity as well as the above title.]
[ Subject Category: Peace, Foreign Policy,
Justice, War and Terrorism]

To the Seattle Post Intelligencer: April 25th, 2002 [Not printed, but submitted intact with post-script]

With the passage of time and the contributions that I have seen published
since September 11th, I feel compelled to resubmit the following, with some additional comments. The April 23rd 2002, Op Ed pages contained two distinct views of our situation. In one rests the solution, that of former President Jimmy Carter, "We can persuade Israel to make peace", and in the other the problem, that of Attorney Steven T. O'Ban, "Israel's war is America's war".

How can we fight a war on terrorism with terrorism?

War On(or) Terrorism November 27, 2001

While already proud to be an American, I was glad to see the fire in William
Safire's, "With Bush's tribunals, we cede moral and legal high ground." The
trashing of human rights in the name of safety will provide neither.
(Apologies to Ben Franklin)

I chose the following words to express my thoughts sometime before noon PST September 11, 2001:

The tragedy that has come to this nation today is unspeakable. It is an
attack on our country but not on our democracy. It would seem to be a form of attack on our democracy to feel the hesitancy to criticize our
government. To find and prosecute the people who are responsible would be justice. But if retaliation is justified in the name of a war on terrorism
then we must wake up. War is already ongoing (freedom and lives are lost
daily around the world) and we must be wary of visiting the same atrocities on others. Since collateral damage has been justified in war (wrongly or not), retaliation that includes hasty justice may be guilty of, if not also justifying the same terrible deeds.

Two days later I had read and re-read my words and had read or heard those of others and had come to find the importance in having a perspective on the choice of words. A response to this horrific act was of course needed, but encouragement came from the first steps taken to get the support of others in the world. To act alone would cause consequences that would prolong this process. There is hope for us if this unity that results truly allows good to prevail. But voices must not hesitate to point out where goodness is needed in the world and it must begin at home. Expressing our feeling of sadness and fear at these outrageous acts must be encouraged and not translated into anger toward any groups in this or other countries that are not the perpetrators or actual supporters of terrorism or we will feed the spiral of hate.

While these words may seem prophetic if not somewhat heeded in the last two and a half months, we must still try to understand this "War on Terrorism".

It must begin with the words used. The word WAR ranges from 1. armed
fighting between groups, through 5. a serious effort to end something, from the Brittanica Concise Dictionary. The same source has a longer definition of TERRORISM, but begins with one sentence. TERRORISM as a systematic threat or use of unpredicted violence by organized groups to achieve a political objective. If the President wants to feel "absolutely" right about his actions, we have to be absolutely certain of his definitions and if he knows them and their consequences. We can as Americans and with a very great part of the world, be engaged in this war as a serious effort to end terrorism.

But, a systematic threat or use of unpredicted violence by organized groups to achieve a political objective is not only Terrorism, it makes our foreign policy and war synonymous with it.

Aside from tossing human rights and the constitution aside, the current
policy is not even consistent with past Republican insistence upon clear
goals and exit strategies being required before troop engagement. Do not get me wrong. War as violence, does have a place in self-defense. However, by not using the term for war as a serious effort to end something, we have not only lost our moral and legal high ground, but have also raised terrorism to the level of war where there are no rules except to the victor.

On patriotism, we must have follow through. Do not ban flag burning or
require the pledge of allegiance, but expect respect for and stand up for
the principles "for which it stands". Without "liberty and justice for all"
we can hardly be "indivisible". As Bush so eloquently said in his September
20th address to congress: "We are in a fight for our principles, and our
first responsibility is to live by them." Is it any indication to the
contrary that on the very day Bush declared this a "war" the Secretary of
Defense confessed that he had yet to consult a dictionary to define war?

Sincerely, Roger Larson

Post script. (4-25-02)

If the above is not explanatory enough, maybe additional considerations are important. If terrorism is more narrowly defined to be attacks on civilians, we obviously still have room to argue with the recent Israelis attack on Palestinian camps and our use of the term "collateral damage".

However, looking at the administration's approach in linking financial and
humanitarian aid to countries that make progress toward democracy, why start with that approach? This would by itself be an attack on civilians, when at the same time, we are not talking about removing the military or defense support and/or cooperation we give to totalitarian and repressive regimes.

In particular the comparison O'Ban made between Israel now and England
during WWII is erroneous in this manner. While England and the rest of
Europe were under attack by a totalitarian regime, most of the attackers of
Israel either have no nation/state or must live "under" repressive regimes
that we at best are simply using, but more seriously contributing to
heavily.

I hope that strong support for the peace plans of Jimmy Carter and/or in
some combination with the Saudi proposals will be forthcoming, or we should not be surprised to be met with our own tactics: violence as a means to achieve a political purpose. Recently I believe President Bush said, "the end does not justify the means". When is he going to start understanding and standing up for that principle?

Roger Larson


Wednesday, December 15, 2010

Speaking of timing

Or counting (or FOX)and follow-up(I could swear there are 6 legs unless it is on the other hand*.)
{italics not fully read yet but it is the point of departure}
{the point of arrival is not always originally intended, or that is the question.}
{note on labels, Navigation is regarding the blog, Navigation II is regarding our course changes. Maybe I should add Navigation III(a combo?).}
(Oh, and a leed change is also a challenge...to read)
* Third Way is point of tangent
[Maybe Thom Hartmann(AM1090) is coming to a realization, which I just missed(taking a call) regarding the power of Obama and his base and secondary potential thread. My points here are: Obama's base is not the liberal left. The Right's loss is the Left's loss, but the middle's gain.(I just coined** that.) My original metaphor*** was, as Republicans lose voters, they become more concentrated, while as Democrats gain voters they are diluted. ]
** critics please pick a better word for this new paraphrase of my original concept, other than coined, is in not that it is not making money for me, but I am just not sure that you coin a phrase. "turned" may suffice.
*** actually a metaphor would have a concept like Lemonade or Kool-aid as an ingredient, which apparently I have previously avoided saying directly at least.
[Still needing to read the italics link, Thom Hartmann and callers are still frustrated, and discuss the Marxist concept that things have to fail first. I am uncertain that is technically a valid name for it, but my point is that dynamically it will not work that way on two counts. It would take people who want it to fail(whatever it is) and it would take people giving up on changing it. That is why peace is much harder work than war, and why it is much harder and slower to make progress than to see the same things again.]
[Post-Pre-emptive Comment: or rather footnote regarding bubbles and cliffs and easing the wall down. Post Hartmann comment: one of my tangents was inspired by the concept of not enough mentionalism, a pun on the dimension of perspectives and whether there are two parties, or three or four or whether the labels matter. But the more the merrier or at least the more the discussion and the bigger the table.]
[Post Building on Change update: "That is why peace is much harder work than war, and why it is much harder and slower to make progress than to see the same things again." Bold added above, but link back provided as promised here.]
[Just in...Breaking or rather Re-Creating the mold: and I am only up to the word "defecit" in Steve Clemons question but I am having a feeling it relates to my just bolded and repeated quote in last bracket, and to wrap this up before it is too diffuse I seems to build upon earlier comments if not leeds.]

Friday, December 11, 2009

Noble, No Bell, Nobel

It was no dynomite for some, nor Hopenhagen.

[Comment above posting on 12-14-09..Originally held in draft 12-11-09 continue as AMENDED here:
Obama's Nobel Lecture; MSNBC, Part I, Part II, Part III, Part IV, Jon Stewart , If Only[**]. ]

[Rounding it out: Obama Doctrine*, If Only, Great Debates, Values: to boldly go wagering "hard work" ]
[EarlierWest PointSpeech: just in case]

* "If Only" this link were followed by...(ribble?)following the Obama Doctrine and wagering Peace. "If Only" duplicity hints at Asterisk Trek, or the star power of words. Do not confuse the just with the jest.

[For future and path, consideration.]

[See 1st comment: PEACE! Get 'er done! Not pieces, get err done. On the other hand...]

[** 12-15-09 UPDATE: Arianna Huffington aggrees with Sarah Palin? Only in Con Text which is out of context, meaning what opinion makers so easily do by selecting their snippets. Neither Palin nor Bush would have been able give this speech and put war in context, but taking it out of context, there could be no difference.]

Wednesday, September 01, 2010

Parsing Combat

{Bracketed (next) with both titles written before this blog post begins and this is not finished.}

Dennis Kucinich said something recently, which rankled me
"peace is inevitable".
I do not believe it is. Peace is "hard work"!

Having yet to hear(or read) the whole speech , the above "Parsing" refers to other's (Norman Goldman) comments.[I may continue to parse.]

Friday, September 01, 2006

The beginning to start to end.

Compassion is the only way to peace
D'VORAH KOST - Seattle Post-Intelligencer -
GUEST COLUMNIST

"We become fully human when we are aware of another's suffering as if it were our own. When we forget empathy, the peace we are striving for will be unattainable."

This was very well put in a piece that is worth a full read.
My comments:

When we deny the feelings of others,
we deny our own.
When we deny the force of others,
we deny our own.

My two sense worth
or sentiments worth.
Let those without denial
cast the first word.
Acceptance of being
in another's shoes
is the hardest fit.

Tuesday, August 15, 2006

Pitbully Soapbox

Why They Hate Us
by Julia E. SweigThe Los Angeles Times
senior fellow Council on Foreign Relations
www.truthout.org

Panic as Policy
by Erik Leaver
research fellow Institute for Policy Studies
www.ThomPaine.com

Hoping for Fear
by Paul Krugman
The New York Times


Democrats must stand for law and order, peace and security, not war and terror.
We really are for "war as a last resort", after exhaustive diplomacy.
War is hard work. Peace should be worked for just as hard.

Given the huge costs and the disasterous results, we have a heckuva budget, not to mention wiggle room to work with.


[This was just going to be the links to the two(then three) sites, but could not just leave them without comment.]

Thursday, January 26, 2006

Where's a cop when you need one?

Is this a good cop/bad cop deal or is it more of "staying the course"?
Here are a few headlines that I will comment on in the light of hope that it is the former.

Hamas' win muddles Mideast peace prospects
Palestinians who vow to destroy Israel get 76 of 132 seats in parliament

[1-27-06: editors note actual link title: Olmert: Israel won’t negotiate with Hamas Militant group quiet after landslide victory in Palestinian elections]

Bush: Hamas must renounce stand
Peace is never dead,’ he says when asked if he’d rule out relations


U.S. releases five Iraqi women prisoners
Official denies move is linked to demand of U.S. journalist's kidnappers


Actually I may let them speak for themselves and read them later, but I am reminded who the Secretary of State is and who the President is and with Rumsfeld and Cheney to cloud the picture I think that there could be hope that Rice is working in this area, and that with all the bad around that some good may come from the "hard work" our troops are doing, and we that politics will actually prevail over violence.

I lighted upon the following segment from the middle link:
But behind the scenes, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice will be talking to Russian, European and U.N. officials later Thursday in a bid to get them to pressure Hamas into renouncing terrorism and accepting Israel’s right to exist.

Of course, the devil may be in the details, but then the administration hasn't done a "heckuva job" with them anyway. Renouncing violence and accepting Israel's right to exist seems like a good starting point. Maybe even politics can clean it's name and be brought home again.

Tuesday, February 25, 2003

Uniting?
A reply to John Carlson's yet to be published or read column. Sent 2-22-03
His column was printed 2-23-03.

John Carlson asks; "What are the anti-war marchers actually for?" Maybe one who marched could answer better, but they marched with my heartfelt support. That question may have been one reason for any hesitancy if that. However it should be simple. They are for peace, and not war. They are for the multitude of methods of working for peace and for preventing war. Are they united under one method of getting there? I think not.

To say they are only against something (as I assume a day before reading his piece) is as wrong as saying hawks are only for war. To say protesters must unite in favor of one idea is as wrong as saying that the war has only one goal. To disarm Iraq is it? Fine, the message is getting clearer. Thanks to whom? Regime change? That too has had its evolution in terminology. Thanks to whom?

Tough talk may have pushed the world to where it is, but it may not get it out of it’s spot so easy. Maybe George Bush has been a uniter not a divider. Did he foresee whom he would unite? It will depend on if he can get out of the corner, he seems to have painted himself into, and upon what he has united the world. It is finishing the job and how we, if united, will be moving on to the next job that will be tricky. Let us hope we are not all in the same corner.



Saturday, September 01, 2012

FOOTNOTES: SEPTEMBER 2012

SEE: SEGUE OF INTENIONS...(below)

9-28-12 [un(fn) since 9-21]
Butt bottoms up!
but: Yes-Butt Head in the Wrong Direction?
to:  http://political_progress_for_people.blogspot.com/2008/04/who-are-they-calling-elitist.html*
not:  http://political_progress_for_people.blogspot.com/2009/06/cap-and-trade.html
one: (b.s.) trickle + down
do:  (b.s.) voodoo + economics
538:  (scroll
compare: over)*
what Think Progress 96%
math (trouble with the curve)
d (w'rithmatic)
(*) satire + mockery
(b.s.): pun + (sic)
(**) total eclipse of the

*under construction

9-21-12 REFRAIN is a Heckuva Paradocs[!]

9-21-12 Ding, Ding, Ding (rough RE-draft)
[see Devo Mitt's BO*Son below]

9-21-12 Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding!
[Pulled from Circulation(Reverted to Draft) for Re-frame]
It is a hecuva job to footnote this.  The Dings are about the fight and the perspectives.
4 Now I will just begin UC(under construction)
!  Punderous Ponderings
? The Choice (4mat anomoly? )
C not but Al Gore Rhythms (retro ^)
[talk about (fn) nightmare of GPS]
[retro ^ = anachronism/time wrap/warp?]
etc  Theology
Re Trinity
Material Off-Cuff
edited Charlotte 2012! [^ C ?]
track (label charts[PAGES])
to (blog search E.B.)
The Hope
darn knit(C ? Rythms ^)
Why OWS is Bigger than Left Vs. Right!
Only Economists Need Apply
hard (b.s Charlotte's Web)
---
risked (INET)
un (obtusity)  
prophetic (dimentionalism)
---
Oh Obama Revives Social Security Idea: Raise Payroll Tax Cap To Replenish Fund
Point Professor Warren's Lesson
3 (prophetic/refrain) (NOT)
Ding: A return to economic sanity.

--\-- 4UC (line #3)
[devo]: Mitt's BO*Son (i.e. flip-flop of
--/--

A return to economic sanity ?[*]
B  Self  Bernanke Myth (Fed Speak)
C   Deflation Jon Stewart (Satire nor Economics)
D  (60 Minutes) context
Lede^^: Tacky, tact, tack
Crack: Economy or Economics
"I don't want to be subjective...(but)^^^

^^ 47% Myth
^^^ Fight of the Century (Good Wrap: Bad Econ)

[*] This footnote segues between Ding and A. leaving out the middle and emblematic of Mitt and his flip-flop of economics.(@A)  It is  Keynesian not Supply or Demand.  The Fight of the Century(@but) is a mockery of a satire on economics and the Deflation of Bernanke by Jon Stewart(@C) is a satire of a mockery of economics.  .

9-19-12 Re:Focus
TIME Romney Refocuses as Obama Decries ‘Victim’ Claim
NFRY=(not fully read yet)
Is Klein on anyones side?[!]
[!]= ;-)  If you don't know, scroll(and go click)yourself!
Hint: Goat Mountain ?

9-18-12 ...promote the general... 
9-18-12
MB: No Apologies Tour?  [UNDER (DE?)CONSTRUCTION]
Correction Leding Entitlement Group?
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/martin-bashir/49065421/#49065421 Ryan
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/martin-bashir/49065421/#49076540
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/martin-bashir/49065421/#49076662  full leder
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/martin-bashir/49065421/#49076662

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/martin-bashir/49065421/#49076663 the cycle
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/martin-bashir/49065421/#49076582
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/martin-bashir/49065421/#49073645  the place
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/martin-bashir/49065421/#49074910  Andrea http://video.msnbc.msn.com/martin-bashir/49065421/#49074064 NOW
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/middle-east-&-n.-africa/49075550/
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/south-&-central-asia/49075904/
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/decision-2012/49075790/
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/the-cycle/49077139/
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/the-cycle/49076662/
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/martin-bashir/49065518/#49065518
Hardball and math death.
Bottom line update top lines and MB.
and who home runs?

9-18-12 Trouble with the Curve?
...promote the general...

9-17-12  One Heckuva Day. The Dickens...(peace meal [!])
  Obama the Uniter!

9-14-12 Politics is local?
sausage:  Ground
Romney/Ryan/Rand:  Game
beef : ? *

footnotes:  Not
out foxed  the
Seattle PI  usual
global text  MO.**

** "well"
not:  Rhetorical Been Laden In-Chief?!
exactly:  Fed/Bernanke/Seattle PI
 
9-13-12 Rhetorical Been Laden[*] In-Chief [asterisk added (9-14) for English emphasis]
This [fn] under-construction and challenging. [comment embedded here (see English emphasis) as well]

SEGUE OF INTENTIONS GOING FORWARD:
FOOTNOTES (see label) BY MONTH. (under construction)
SCROLLING DOWN DATE OF INSERT WILL NOT BE INCLUDED UNLESS THERE IS AN UPDATE TO NOTE.

9-13-12   Links [update change]
Having instituted new footnote process here.[*]dupe applicable

9-13-12 Refrain post frain?[*]
satire: Mitt + BO*son
mockery: Fall-Awful on Mitt's Face!
later: frain

4 huff posts
Dangerous Narratives
Whose Maker
Obama Role
The Bounce?
NFRY

* BaneOr
Out Foxed?
Rubric's Peek
"Feel the Love"?
Not to Follow-Up...
String Cheese Theory?
First Downgrade in US History!
Ideology

anachronism foray
Un-State of the Union
Conservative Foray (4A)

intended CAD
CAD (2 out of 3 be bad)
CAD (Culturally Aided Design)
CAD (To be or not 3d)
State of Politics

[Edits occurring post footnote @ some*** are not included in this footnote process as hinted at: *** exception to the rule(bottom line) [Footnotes** Change] appropriately
i.e. yet to footnote but what the google[anachronism unintended] or is it? ]
*** also not included here
[*]asterisks will appear bracketed by date, but unbracketed are from original post: * anachronism intended will appear in bold, followed by the contents of the b.s. [**]
[**] the exception to the rule [***]
[***] i.e. what the google you scroll over or click for link

ALSO post asterisk *** bracketeds not included here.


9-12-12  Fall-Awful on Mitt's Face!
Footnoes under construction...
September 11th

heading*[^^]

[latest]

9-11-12 Forward?
the only link to outside source: (9-12) Politics

9-7-12 Other Mysterious Ways...
Heavy (GWB) on Huffington Post and b.s. (vous due[sic])
[selected links are footnoted]
There (HP) Climate Change not a Hoax
is (HP) Artists Against Fracking (Ono/Lennon)
W*(b.s.) Google Works
rithmatic (TLR)Four More Years 
and  (ibid) Mitts BO*son
After Math. (HP) BP/Isaac .

Un-bolded Under-construction, peace meal [!].
9-7-12 Google Works...
9-5-12 Four More Years!
9-4-12 Charlotte 2012!
Out Foxed?
9-2-12 For Pete Sake!


Thursday, October 13, 2011

IMAGINE!

That is what John Lennon wrote...
and he's not the only one.
This is what democracy looks like!
And Jim Hightower is not the only one.

FYI: Hightower was at Petrovitsky Park Rolling Thunder 2002.
Ambassador Joe Wilson was at the Inslee Iraq Forum.

I realize this is a bit of a ramble. But I will leave it for now. The sentiment is in the Label: Civil Disobedience. Thank you for paying the price. Peace On, not out!

[10-13-11 Here is the inspiration for this post: [And my reply (yesterday).] Wouldn't it be cool.
If the OWS could follow the rules? Now I am not mocking the right or left, but "imagine" as John Lennon said: People occupying the park and actually standing for something? I mean literally to not mock Faux News. But I just mean that the more that stand, the more could fit, and they could even go home or to other encampments or facilities. I'm just saying. [Update] GONGA[*] (against the gravy train)
Yes! I am serious. The park clean-up has been postponed and the private owners of the publicly accessible park have come to an agreement with the OWS organizers. But when some protesters chose to march on wall street, they chose not to use the sidewalks. Which is their right not to follow the rules for the sake of getting the attention through civil disobedience. While I have yet to read the details of the agreement, but I can still imagine. I am imagining a conga line of sorts. Imagine the length of any procession moving from one venue to another. [This is reminiscent of a MoveOn rally that presented the anti-Iraq War Resolution petitions signatures to every congressional office in 2002. Well, we didn't do the conga**. Wish I had thought of it.]

[*] 11-22-11 follow up spell check[!]: My original GONGA is noted as a potential typo or pun that I am now missing, or maybe the voodoo that some do.
** like added 11-22-11

Tuesday, October 13, 2009

Nobel Oblige

Prize and Prejudice Countdown with Steve Clemons [#4 The Nobel Savage]
The Myth of "America" truthout.com
Hope and Change
A New Climate
Training for Choice

Update: 8 Most Outrageous Attacks on Obama's Nobel Peace Prize
Borax Prize ***
[Embedded in my nomination* (Prize; which was a shot in the dark) was an "either or" diatribe by Charles Krauthammer. Decline is a Choice appropriately concluding with the words of Demosthenes:
...when asked what was to be done about the decline of Athens. His reply? "I will give what I believe is the fairest and truest answer: Don't do what you are doing now."
Given the hegemony or decline choice there must be no denial that Obama is not doing what we have been doing. But that is not the choice.]

* I have rendered in bold, read links. And nominated the Borax Prize as the Un-Nobel Prize {comment pending review, or hit a snag}

[Update: Put in con text. Obama lambasts major faiths.**
And surmize. Our Reagan. ]

** a pun on con_text
*** 10-14-09 Renamed: Borax Award

Wednesday, September 08, 2010

Missing thought

I am still trying to recover thought B, of labor day weak*. But it could be that I hit it already. The Bush tax cuts have failed to provide the jobs they were intended to, and they add to the debt. If this is not clear, there is big job market for people who think they know better.(sarcasm) BTW: war is a cost(Peace is an investment.)
[*italics indicate intentional spelling(missing sarcasm noted? sp! or sic = sarcasm in context)]

Wednesday, August 26, 2009

Awkward Segue: Ted Kennedy, R.I.P.

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Are you talking about me?
..or the Republicans (tongue in cheek).
[This potential post including the title evolved in my head yesterday.** ]
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[Original title: Winding Down / Cracking Up.]

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[THE DREAM SHALL NEVER DIE *]
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AWKWARD SEGUE:
May Senator Ted Kennedy "Rest in Peace"
with the potential success of health care reform. He now has the potential to role in his grave at the Republican comments in my first link.

Return to normal programming? My apologies for making light or political calculus(or physics) of the passing of an icon. It seems the Republicans lifted a preemptive glass of whine, and it is time for the Democrats get the bread out. I did not want to break or cast it...metaphorically.

[Post post mourning Steve Clemons: my heart goes out to those closer to him.]

*last update/edit
** timing clarified 8-28-09 (italics here and there)

Monday, January 05, 2015

Rest In Peace

Second officer laid to rest from tragic slaying. 


Officer Wenjian Liu
Officer Rafael Ramos







Monday, November 11, 2013

Meta PI

Meta Preemptive Inclinations:**

1.Tea Party shocker: Even right-wingers become liberals when they turn off Fox News
2. The Thought Catalog revolution: How trolling took over the Internet
3. Libertarians are very confused about capitalism
More to read links from Salon.
GOP’s intolerance trap: How ENDA fight explains all of U.S. politics
Paul Krugman on America’s “mutilated” economy (a)*
Albert Camus anticipated the Arab Spring
Michigan mayor: We’re not under Shariah law!
Must-see morning clip: Patrick Stewart slams Rand Paul and others as comedians with “bad script writers”
Salon exclusive: More Rand Paul plagiarism

*bold indicative of order read

[Where is the department of that?]
Veterans Day is a prayer for peace

[NOW with Alex Wagner GOP/Grand Old Problem/Deal With It (Akin to three way chess)] .
**Mangled Pythagorean Interests (Force Fear Fancy Futures)